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Post by kelsham on Aug 18, 2013 17:22:41 GMT
Well after all my efforts to silence my Morris I now have a noise from the front of the car. Intermittent whoosh whoosh going round corners alters it's pitch, probably a wheel bearing. I recently fitted recon calipers and so unlikely to be the pads rubbing. In spite of my best efforts I am unsure of which side it is coming from. Any ideas?
regards Kels.
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Post by Penguin45 on Aug 19, 2013 9:36:25 GMT
Did you undo the shaft nut when doing the calipers? 150lb/ft is pretty damn tight. Otherwise check for play - anything more than fractional isn't right.
Chris.
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Post by dave1800 on Aug 19, 2013 11:51:38 GMT
It's difficult but in my experience usually if the noise is louder when you turn left it is the right hand wheel bearing. Do you notice the brake pedal sinking a bit further after turning a corner - if so that's a good indication of play. As Chris says the hub nut is 150ft/lbs plus often a bit more to get the split pin in, but no need to undo it to change the calipers unless you were doing something else. Sorry to hear of the problems but I would recommend addressing this urgently as it's very easy to damage the hub, I know I've made that mistake! Regards David Well after all my efforts to silence my Morris I now have a noise from the front of the car. Intermittent whoosh whoosh going round corners alters it's pitch, probably a wheel bearing. I recently fitted recon calipers and so unlikely to be the pads rubbing. In spite of my best efforts I am unsure of which side it is coming from. Any ideas? regards Kels.
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Post by kelsham on Aug 20, 2013 13:20:51 GMT
No need to take the hub nut undone to change the caliper. I have a dilemma, left turns cause an increase in the noise. However I could swear the noise is from the nearside. Having tried to trace noisy bearings in the past I am keen not to end up doing both in error.
Due to the rest of the fleet needing more urgent attention it will be a week or two before I need to make a decision.
Both front bearings have been replaced only a few thousand miles ago, it really is irritating.
Regards Kels.
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Post by dave1800 on Aug 20, 2013 14:10:58 GMT
Kels You can check if there is any play at all and if the hub nut is fully tightened. If you replaced the bearings only a few thousand miles ago then it is possible that the cone washer has settled in and the nut is no longer fully tightened. I guess you followed the correct procedure making sure that the driving flange was fully home initially using a flat washer (or special tool) in place of the cone washer and then replaced the flat washer with the cone washer. If you don't follow this procedure the cone washer may tighten on the shaft and the bearing is not tight despite doing up the nut to 150 ft lbs. Regards David No need to take the hub nut undone to change the caliper. I have a dilemma, left turns cause an increase in the noise. However I could swear the noise is from the nearside. Having tried to trace noisy bearings in the past I am keen not to end up doing both in error. Due to the rest of the fleet needing more urgent attention it will be a week or two before I need to make a decision. Both front bearings have been replaced only a few thousand miles ago, it really is irritating. Regards Kels.
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Post by kelsham on Aug 22, 2013 9:07:55 GMT
Dave, I was aware of the need to assemble with a washer first. Truth is I can't remember what I actually did. My memory for unpleasant jobs seems to discard them as soon as they are done. I did check for loose bearings a while back and all seemed O.K. I will try again before attempting to change the bearing.
At the moment I am overwhelmed with disaster. My 1932 BSA three wheeler has the gearbox/diff out cracked casing awaiting welding. My XJ-S has the stub axles removed awaiting correct replacements. The ones delivered were wrongly machined. The Rover 100 needs the suspension pumped up on one side. and the wife is after me for various house repairs.
Regards Kels.
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Post by dave1800 on Aug 22, 2013 11:39:03 GMT
So sorry to hear about your catalogue of disasters. I guess it would be sensible to listen to your wife and do a few jobs around the house first I guessed you would have known about the correct assembly for the hubs using a flat washer first, but thought it worth mentioning for the newer owners as it is very easy to get it wrong (and it's not obvious) with expensive and time consuming results - as you say not a fun job especially if you have to do it twice. Good luck! Regards David Dave, I was aware of the need to assemble with a washer first. Truth is I can't remember what I actually did. My memory for unpleasant jobs seems to discard them as soon as they are done. I did check for loose bearings a while back and all seemed O.K. I will try again before attempting to change the bearing. At the moment I am overwhelmed with disaster. My 1932 BSA three wheeler has the gearbox/diff out cracked casing awaiting welding. My XJ-S has the stub axles removed awaiting correct replacements. The ones delivered were wrongly machined. The Rover 100 needs the suspension pumped up on one side. and the wife is after me for various house repairs. Regards Kels.
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