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Post by dave1800 on May 31, 2016 0:07:20 GMT
I wonder who here does what Tommy did, actually measure the volume of oil? I now recall that all my crabs in fact used to take less than the specified amount despite draining warrm so I would add around 1 imperial gallon and then add slowly to the dipstick mark. David [quote author=" tommydp" source="/post/10235/thread" timestamp="1464414836". I filled exactly 5.1 litres, plus the filter, which is correct. However on the dipstick, the level is well above max. Tommy [/quote]
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Post by indianajones on May 31, 2016 0:42:18 GMT
I recall I had a similar issue with my engine (possibly a wedge one) where I filled up as per the manual and it went well over the dipstick. So what I do now is fill up around half of that and then just top it up around a pint at a time and check the stick until it's done.
-Andrew
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Post by peppib on May 31, 2016 8:00:05 GMT
I have never bothered using suggested volumes - always just filling to the mark, running engine and checking, then topping up as necessary.
My Merc needed an oil change a couple of weeks ago. Now being 1 step away from useless, I took it to a local garage where the chap is a saloon car racing driver and very knowledgable (?) No problems with engine, but for the autobox he drained it, changed the filter and proceeded to refil according to specification. He works over a pit (albeit a very smart one with MOT paraphenalia either side), and after a while noticed oil persisting into said pit. Down he went and it was pouring out of the overflow, even though he still had 1 litre to add. He let it overflow until it stopped, started the engine and out it came again, so again left it until it stopped. I took it out the next day, when it was wet, and left a multi coloured trail on the road surface. I had to insert a flexible pipe into the dipstick holder/filler tube, attach a large syringe and extract fluid until I got it down to the mark. Just shows, never believe what you read in a manual, always check with your own eyes (I suspect the volume of fluid he was adding equated to having drained the torque converter, which I didn't see him do)
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Post by dave1800 on May 31, 2016 10:27:10 GMT
Tommy
If you are certain that the measurements of the dipsticks are the same, my advice is to drain the oil until it is at the top dipstick mark, If there is too much oil there is a chance of severe engine damage and also the risk of seals failing.
Don't take out more than 1 litre max. If that is required there is something amiss that needs investigating.
regards
David
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Post by Penguin45 on May 31, 2016 16:57:02 GMT
The transfer housing doesn't fully drain, so refilling will always be less than the stated amount.
Chris.
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Post by tommydp on May 31, 2016 20:56:20 GMT
Thanks for your replies everyone:-)
I'm now absolutely sure the dipsticks are the same. It appears to me the 1800 is quite sensitive to how it is standing when it comes to checking the oil level. I believe I have parked it quite level but when checking in a parking house, which should be level, the level is different... That's why I rather would measure up than judge by the dipstick. A mistake, perhaps...
There is 0.9 litres between min and max. Judging by this, there was not more than around 0.5 litres extra when I checked it. I'll find a level place and check it again, and see if I have to drain some. Perhaps it's burned some running in:-)
Tommy.
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Post by dave1800 on Jun 1, 2016 0:35:24 GMT
The W/S manual shows "Refill with filter 10.25 pints Refill without filter 9 pints Primary drive gear 1.5 pints (that's what end up on the garage floor when dismantling! Total from dry 12.5 pints (early cars 15 pints - UK = 18 US)" So the total from dry - 12.5 pints does not equal the refill plus primary drive = 11.75 pints.I assume the difference is what is in the galleries which will depend on how long it has been standing. No wonder Tommy had trouble trying to fill by using the spec! The transfer housing doesn't fully drain, so refilling will always be less than the stated amount. Chris.
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Post by Penguin45 on Jun 6, 2016 17:27:56 GMT
Just to compound the confusion, I check the oil level in Eugenie before I set of for this weekend's show. Engine stone cold from standing over night, oil level on the top mark. Drove to the show, parked up and left the car for about an hour and a half. Oil level below the bottom mark. I didn't top it up, but left it for the rest of the day. After standing for nine hours, I checked again, and the level was back up to the top mark!
This suggests that it's very easy to over-fill the car.
Chris.
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